GOODBYE TO .BCN, .NYC, .BERLIN, …?

I feel sad for the people behind the .berlin top level domain because there is people behind the proposal of the .berlin new domain.

I cannot say the same about the .bcn domain. It was just one more of the ideas from the City Council without regard to the opinion of people from Barcelona (they are Barcelona, I imagine is their thought) In Barcelona not only there was no interest in the .bcn. There was opposition. Peope were afraid it could debilitate the .cat domain.

Quite surprisingly, it is now the US Commerce Department who is raising concerns about the expansion of new tld domains.

My experience on the Internet is that it is a place for chaos, So the less chaos the best.

So, if new tld do not come soon as it seemed then in Barcelona we just should be happy we have the .cat domain.

But then why should the Berliners do not have the .berlin?

Maybe the answer is to do the things step by step. Just give only one domain to a city and see what happens. In that casy I imagine the city should be BERLIN.

I wonder what to do now with my www.dotbcn.com … maybe I could do a website about utopic projects related to Barcelona city …

.BCN .BERLIN .HAMBURG .NYC .PARIS GET TOGETHER

I hope you understound the joke …

In this post I want to talk a bit about ICANN, the ones who would decide about the top level domains to be assigned!

In order to do that I am just reading a transcription from a meeting at Cairo. You can read it at http://cai.icann.org/files/meetings/cairo2008/public-forum-open-discussion-06nov08.txt

I am amazed that questions in that meeting are similar to ones I made myself. For example, the person representing .nyc is worried because they have to pay a lot of money to submit the candidacy and then they are not sure which are the criteria to be successful! I have the same doubts! Imagine the Barcelona City Council asks for the .bcn and a rich private investor askes also for .bcn. Who has more possibilities to win? Should a City Council have more possibilities that just a private company?

I past here the part where the CEO from dot berlin talks:

” [ Applause ]

Dirk Krischenowski
>>PETER DENGATE THRUSH: Sir.
>>DIRK KRISCHENOWSKI: My name is Dirk Krischenowski, and I’m founder of the dot Berlin initiative.
We are here for the 11th meeting on — in a row, ICANN meeting. And I’m hopeful every time, since the timeline ICANN publishes before the ICANN meeting looks very promising to us and others. But with us, also the community of Berliners is looking forward to acquire its top-level domain, dot Berlin.
But every time we are going back to our community in Germany, we are disappointed, disappointed about the three- to six-months delay in the new TLD process, which makes up nine months from now before the next round actually opens.
I call this a consecutive pregnancy of ICANN. And what is usually done when a pregnancy will not end naturally is cesarean section is the method of choice for both saving the life of, in our case, I would say, the new TLD applicants, and ICANN.
I’m also speaking on behalf of the city TLD stakeholder alliance, the city TLD initiatives of Barcelona, Berlin, Hamburg, New York City, and Paris have formed on Tuesday. Our interest group is planning to become part of ICANN’s structure and framework. And we invite others to join our group. And we are happy to do cooperation and collaboration with them.
Besides the timeline, our group is also concerned about the 75,000 annual fees for city TLDs. This amount is unfair in comparison to the ccTLDs and existing gTLDs. It also endangers the business models of the city TLDs seriously.
Therefore, and for these reasons, I would appreciate if the board will not allow ICANN to further postpone the introduction of the new top-level domain names.
Please help to give birth to the new top-level domain names finally.
[ Applause ]”

So a group has been formed between New York, Barcelona, Paris, Hamburg and Berlin. I wonder how many people from these cities know that! I hope to know more!

In http://citytld.com/news.htm I see a photo with Dirk Krischenowski and also Amadeu Abril i Abril from the .cat.

It also says the people who represented the .bcn: Jaume Bordell i Sarro , Joan Batlle i Montserrat , Marta Tellez , Raquel Gisbert i Borras

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DOTBCN, A NEW THINK TANK …

DOTBCN wants to be a think tank about the dangers of Internet. Dangers for our health, etc.

I find that much more interesting that whether Barcelona gets the .bcn tld domain …

DOTBCN O EL NAIXEMENT D’UN NOU THINK TANK

No sé pas que passarà amb el domini .bcn i de fet ni sóc un gran entusiasta ni un gran detractor.

De fet … el que em preocupa és quelcom que està per damunt de domini .bcn sí o .bcn no. Es tracta de cap on va Internet. I Internet en general.

I és per això que he pensat de fer d’aquest blog, actualment un bloc de www.dotbcn.com, un lloc on exposar les meves preocupacions sobre el que suposa Internet.

Internet, tal com la coneixem ara, fa poc que va nèixer i encara no té grans detractors i ´més bé tot el contrari.

Però i si resultés que Internet sigui nociva?

No em refereixo a spam o enganys per Internet. Em refereixo a la bogeria de tenir cada dia més i més informació a Internet. La sensació de caos. L’addicció a Internet. El viure el un món virtual i abandonar el món real.

I si Internet ens està fent uns desgraciats a milions de persones. I si estem tan enganxats que no ho volem admetre?

Bé, he pensat fer de DOTBCN un lloc per pensar sobre això. Un think tank d’anar per casa, per començar …

PUNTO BCN

Cuando registré www.dotbcn.com, www.puntbcn.com y www.puntobcn.com la idea era crear una web participativa sobre el futuro .bcn. De todas maneras buscando por Internet, una de las cosas que puede llamar la atención es que se menciona mucho PUNTO BCN.

Este post está aquí para explicar lo que pasa. Resulta que desde hace años, por lo menos desde los 90, existe un bar gay llamado PUNTO BCN en el Eixample barcelonés. Pertenece al grupo Arena ( www.grupoarena.com ) y es una de los símbolos del ambiente gay en la capital catalana. Me pregunto la razón de su nombre.

En su web veo que también han obierto más PUNTO en otras lugares como Panamá (PTY), San José (SJO), Santo Domingo (SDQ).

.NYC: CONNECTINGNYC.ORG OR DOTNYC.NET?

While in Barcelona just the City Council has some interest in the .bcn domain and some people fear it could endanger the .cat, in New York City the things seem to be quite different. Until now we has a non-profit organization called http://www.connectingnyc.org . But for some days we have another one interested in .nyc too! It has the website http://www.dotnyc.net.

I wish something similar happened in Barcelona: the townhall with http://www.puntbcn.cat and a private company with maybe my domain, http://www.dotbcn.com trying to get the .bcn.

Let’s see what happens in New York. In Barcelona meanwhile, let’s wait and see … as always. :-(

JUST SOME QUESTIONS …

The following questions are not directly connected to the .bcn domain but are general ones so I hope that maybe some answer quite be given by any visitor …

The first question is the following:

Imagine two different bodies want the same top level domain. What happens then? I say that because the fee for the ICANN is quite expensive so I wonder what should be done in this case.

The second question is the following:

We all know that there are disputes about domains. So, what happens with top level domains?